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elgrey ([personal profile] elgrey) wrote2006-05-28 03:10 pm
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Stargate Atlantis musings (spoilers for S1-S2)


I've been catching up on Stargate Atlantis on DVD now that enough of it is out that I wouldn't get stuck on a cliffhanger. The more I see of TV shows on DVD, the more I think this is the only way I want to watch them. I've really enjoyed the show. More musings behind the cut, including spoilers for S1 and S2.



Have now watched 28 episodes of Atlantis and have enjoyed every one of them. (S2 Vol 3 doesn’t come out until June 5th or I would have watched more.) The show really reminds me of early season Stargate, with the same zip and enthusiasm from all concerned. It’s making me very keen to see S9 of Stargate and if the same zip is apparent there. So far, I’ve liked all the characters, even Sheppard, who I expected to find annoying, although I do worry a little for a group of people whose most senior military officer went on a trip to another galaxy and forgot to pack a comb.

 

The show has done nothing to cure me of my 48 Hours-induced McKay crush as he simply rules. Still think he should be with Sam but I’m just starting to get over my snit about Atlantis bagging him instead of him staying on Stargate. Zelenka is adorable and every home should have one. I want to pet him and feed him cookies every time he bounces around enthusiastically like Daniel’s eccentric Czechoslovakian uncle. Love Weir; such a change having someone in charge who doesn’t get into entrenched positions. I suspect she has a What Would Daniel Do? badge hidden somewhere in her room. Much as I adore Hammond, I'm pleased to see someone in charge who isn't military. Love Teyla although I do feel that on missions she is often in the unenviable position of being the only grown up amongst a group of unruly squabbling schoolboys. Beckett is a sweetheart. There can never be too much of him. I really liked Ford, but prefer Ronon, and think the Ford story so far has been excellent, very moving and RSF did an incredible job showing his conflict before heading off to be with the Wraith. I like to think of Ford munching his way through a whole ship of them although I suppose that’s not very likely.

 

So far all the plots have been great, even the slightly cheesy ones have been saved by sharp scripting or a new twist. Some really sympathetic people have died, and the effects are incredible. I found Atlantis rising out of the water in Rising was so beautiful I was in tears. Love the music too.

 

I don’t usually like inter-team ship, especially in the Stargate universe, as the writers on this show aren’t very good at progressing romances and having people come out the other side of them, as things happen in real life, and usually leave them in a ridiculous holding pattern of yearning glances and no physical contact like twelve year olds trying to get up the courage to ask each other to dance. However, even though I know it would probably be very bad for the show on all kinds of levels, I really *really* want Ronon and Teyla to have lots and lots of sex where I can watch them having it, because they’re just so amazingly hot together. They can break up afterwards and decide to remain friends or whatever so there isn’t too much tedious mooning around, but I would really like them to have the lots and lots of sex first. Perhaps aliens could make them do it just for me? Ronon has the same effect on me as Teal'c. I just want him to stand there so I can walk around him going ‘Wow…’

 

I’m not seeing the McShep thing, although I’d like to as I love their interaction on the show, and I am seeing the Shep/Weir thing although I’d really like not to as I think it would be a terrible idea, not least because Sheppard is nothing like good enough for Weir. However, now Ronon is around I do find it very hard to believe any woman on the base is going to want to look at anyone except him even if Sheppard strips naked and turn cartwheels. Unless they’re a lot less shallow than me, of course, which is perfectly likely.
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[identity profile] emeraldteal.livejournal.com 2006-05-29 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
Hi Elgrey :)

Haven't seen you around for a while. Hope all is well with you and yours :)

First off... YAY! Another SGA and McKay fangirl! Whee! I don't have many who are on my flist, so I'm very, very pleased. *g*

Have you seen the 'Stressed' music vid? It's a McKay vid, and it's totally about him and stress. lol. Very impressive. Oh, but it has scenes until late S2 I think, so maybe you wanna avoid it if you don't want to get too spoiled. Here's the link- http://www.relative-obscurity.org/belles/cb.html

When I first heard about a Stargate spin-off, I wasn't too impressed. It's not always easy to duplicate the success of the original show. Boy, was I wrong. I only saw S1 late last year, and when I saw Atlantis rising from beneath the waves, I knew I was hooked. I loved John a bit when he stumbled down a slope after Teyla and pretended to be cool about it. I loved John more when he told Rodney in the Brotherhood that he could've joined MENSA. And my final complete fall was when he went all stealthily rampaging and killed 60-odd Genii in defense of Atlantis (and Rodney + Elizabeth). Oh, *purr*

Of course, I'm a total McKay slavegirl. Oh Rodney. My love knows no bounds. You had me at 'Hide & Seek' and I love you more and more as I see each ep. *bg* And now I'm a DH fangirl too. O.o There are some very good eps in S2, I hope you share your thoughts with us when you're done seeing them all.

I love all the characters in SGA. It makes me very happy :D I love Dr Weir, sure she could've been written better in S2, but I totally don't see why people hate her so. *shrug* At least there's fanfic, and in this fandom we are blessed with so many exceptional writers. I literally don't have time to keep up with all the fic.

Teyla is amazing, and yes, she totally have to do it with Ronon. :D Everyone was prepared to hate Ronon since he's practically replacing Ford, but boy! Didn't we all fall all over him, lol. He's amazing too. There are some interactions between him and Teyla in S2 which are very, very good. They do have a lot in common, being the 'aliens', and always seem to be sharing amused looks when John and Rodney start bickering. (and yes, I'm a McShep fangirl, though it took me a while to see it, hee)

Radek! You're right, we have to clone him. He's adorable. And Carson, yay. I'm sorry that Peter had to die, that was a blow. I even love Kavanaugh and Bates. There should be more of them too, damnit. When a show makes me love each and every one of the characters, well. You can be assured I'll be fangirling til the end. Just like Angel and Firefly and NCIS and X-Files and SG1 and The Sentinel. *happy sigh*

Oh, and Lorne! He even came over from SG1, isn't that great? What a great continuity right there. And some more new supporting characters who are distinctive and vital and so unique. Did I tell you I love this show? *g*

Ooops, didn't mean to ramble so much. But I really am happy :D

Be seeing ya, and happy viewing! :)

[identity profile] bka0711.livejournal.com 2006-05-29 12:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Stress! Stress! Come to me, Rodney! :) That's the songvid that made me say "I've gotta see this show and I've gotta see this guy."

There is literally no one I don't love on this show. That is one of the reasons it's such a joy for me. McKay would be enough to make me watch anything (and DH is such a fantastic actor that I'm happy to watch him and giant snakes in questionable sci-fi movies...), but what a wonderful bonus to so enjoy the whole package of characters and story-telling.

And, yes, McShep rules. And so does the fanfic in this fandom. :)

Happy happy fangirl here.

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[identity profile] emeraldteal.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Hehehe, seems that everyone has seen that. I'm still discovering things. This fandom is huge! The fandoms I've been involved in before this were all waning, so to speak, so I didn't have trouble getting around. But SGA... *boggles*

Oh, Rodney. everybody's out to get me and I feel all right... That vid sure makes his hands seem... hypnotizing... *bg*

Ah, Boa vs Python. The tight t-shirt makes it all worthwhile... :D

Have fun at your get together, you guys! :D

[identity profile] elgrey.livejournal.com 2006-05-29 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, Elly! How nice to hear from you. :)

(And I had your comments in all neatly italicized and everything but LJ said the post was too long until I cut them, so apologies for that.)

Everything is great, thank you. I'm very excited about [livejournal.com profile] bka0711 coming over to visit me on June 1st. We're going to pig out on the Without A Trace episodes she hasn't seen and the Atlantis episodes I haven't seen, and I suspect, have a lot of David Hewlett and Eric Close viewing.

Have you seen the 'Stressed' music vid?

That is the vid that hooked [livejournal.com profile] bka0711on McKay and Atlantis. I was already a McKay ho because of his guest appearances on SG-1 so although I absolutely *love* that one and play it over and over, for me it was the double whammy of that vid and this one If I Wrote You (http://lierdumoa.livejournal.com/228779.html). I just thought the show looked so beautiful in that vid and the relationships looked moving and intense. And I do think that those two vids really do sum up what I love about the show - stressed McKay, and Weir et al struggling to stay alive and protect Atlantis.

Oh yes, me too on Atlantis rising from beneath the waves! Isn't that a stunning, stunning shot? I really did have tears in my eyes when that happened, and I love the love that they all have for the city, and how it's become another character in the show, like Zen in Blake's 7. I just really really want Daniel to see it, as I think it would be love at first sight for him too.

I was expecting Sheppard to be a character I just had to put up with and I've found myself liking him more and more with each episode; he's smart, he's witty, he's fallible, and he is very human and sweet, and all the moments you cite are lovely.

I'm gobbling the show up so greedily, I'm not sure my thoughts will be very coherent, but I'll certainly try to post something. I'm right with you on being a McKay and DH fangirl too.

It's wonderful to see so much fic. I'm not in the place yet where I want to read fic about the show; I'm too busy just watching it, but I'm thrilled to know how much there is out there. I may feel differently about Weir when I've seen all of S2, but even if she screws up, I think she's earned it for all the times when she made the right call. At the moment she's almost up there with McKay in my character love, and there isn't anyone I don't like. I have the warm fuzzies about the whole bunch of them right now.

I do think that Sheppard and McKay's bickering is completely adorable and deserves a lot of eye rolling from the grown ups on the team. It would be nice if Teyla and Ronon could have sex quite soon. :) Good for you on the McShep. Perhaps one day I'll see it too, but it may be something one has to read the fic to really get.

When a show makes me love each and every one of the characters, well. You can be assured I'll be fangirling til the end. Just like Angel and Firefly and NCIS and X-Files and SG1 and The Sentinel. *happy sigh*

It's that really good sense of a whole group of characters who care about each other and so make us care about them that makes a show a must see, isn't it? I was very choked up when Peter Grodin died, and the other deaths have all felt significant too. I particularly liked Weir having to send messages back to the families and this real sense of how painful this was to recipients as well as how hard for her.

Oh, and Lorne! He even came over from SG1, isn't that great? What a great continuity right there. And some more new supporting characters who are distinctive and vital and so unique. Did I tell you I love this show? *g*

I love the continuity between the two shows, like having the girl from Frozen at the beginning of Rising, and the references to SG-1 events. I'd love more crossovers between the two shows.

Ooops, didn't mean to ramble so much. But I really am happy :D

Be seeing ya, and happy viewing! :)


You're not rambling at all! It's lovely to hear your thoughts. I'm right there with you on the Atlantis love! I'm really looking forward to seeing the rest of S2 and waiting impatiently for S3 to air. :)
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[identity profile] emeraldteal.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
We're going to pig out on the Without A Trace episodes she hasn't seen and the Atlantis episodes I haven't seen, and I suspect, have a lot of David Hewlett and Eric Close viewing.

There's really no better way to spend the time, drooling over yummy guys and with great company too. Hope you guys have fun :D

Haven't seen 'If I Wrote You.' Thanks for linking it. I'm always discovering new things here. The fandom is so big that even things from 2004 are new to me *g*

You already loved Rodney from SG1? Wow. I only got to see him after I watched SGA. Had to dload the eps. My SG1 viewing is up to S5 only, I think. For some reason the tv stations here didn't want to pick up SG1. And the dvds are hard to find. Oh well.

But anyway, Rodney at the SGC. Annoying and cute. I love his whole reaction to Anubis. "Anubis, this is your agent..." He has no respect whatsoever. lol.

I had a weird moment where a crazy thought popped up in my head: Rodney is Jack and Sam's love-child. Cause he's got her eyes and his mouth (literally & figuratively, lol)

Daniel and Sam should totally be at Atlantis already. Daniel most of all. I think they might have the chance in S3, I mean... crossovers! Wheee! Why the heck not? ;)

Ah, Elizabeth. Yes she made some mistakes, they all did. They're not infallible. And I love seeing her flail around Ronon. She just doesn't know how to act around him. Gosh, aside from Ronon/Teyla, I want to see Ronon/Elizabeth. Cause they're so opposites *g*

Anyway, some good S2 eps coming up. Still totally with the SGA love :)