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Stargate Atlantis musings (spoilers for S1-S2)
I've been catching up on Stargate Atlantis on DVD now that enough of it is out that I wouldn't get stuck on a cliffhanger. The more I see of TV shows on DVD, the more I think this is the only way I want to watch them. I've really enjoyed the show. More musings behind the cut, including spoilers for S1 and S2.
Have now watched 28 episodes of Atlantis and have enjoyed every one of them. (S2 Vol 3 doesn’t come out until June 5th or I would have watched more.) The show really reminds me of early season Stargate, with the same zip and enthusiasm from all concerned. It’s making me very keen to see S9 of Stargate and if the same zip is apparent there. So far, I’ve liked all the characters, even Sheppard, who I expected to find annoying, although I do worry a little for a group of people whose most senior military officer went on a trip to another galaxy and forgot to pack a comb.
The show has done nothing to cure me of my 48 Hours-induced McKay crush as he simply rules. Still think he should be with Sam but I’m just starting to get over my snit about Atlantis bagging him instead of him staying on Stargate. Zelenka is adorable and every home should have one. I want to pet him and feed him cookies every time he bounces around enthusiastically like Daniel’s eccentric Czechoslovakian uncle. Love Weir; such a change having someone in charge who doesn’t get into entrenched positions. I suspect she has a What Would Daniel Do? badge hidden somewhere in her room. Much as I adore Hammond, I'm pleased to see someone in charge who isn't military. Love Teyla although I do feel that on missions she is often in the unenviable position of being the only grown up amongst a group of unruly squabbling schoolboys. Beckett is a sweetheart. There can never be too much of him. I really liked Ford, but prefer Ronon, and think the Ford story so far has been excellent, very moving and RSF did an incredible job showing his conflict before heading off to be with the Wraith. I like to think of Ford munching his way through a whole ship of them although I suppose that’s not very likely.
So far all the plots have been great, even the slightly cheesy ones have been saved by sharp scripting or a new twist. Some really sympathetic people have died, and the effects are incredible. I found Atlantis rising out of the water in Rising was so beautiful I was in tears. Love the music too.
I don’t usually like inter-team ship, especially in the Stargate universe, as the writers on this show aren’t very good at progressing romances and having people come out the other side of them, as things happen in real life, and usually leave them in a ridiculous holding pattern of yearning glances and no physical contact like twelve year olds trying to get up the courage to ask each other to dance. However, even though I know it would probably be very bad for the show on all kinds of levels, I really *really* want Ronon and Teyla to have lots and lots of sex where I can watch them having it, because they’re just so amazingly hot together. They can break up afterwards and decide to remain friends or whatever so there isn’t too much tedious mooning around, but I would really like them to have the lots and lots of sex first. Perhaps aliens could make them do it just for me? Ronon has the same effect on me as Teal'c. I just want him to stand there so I can walk around him going ‘Wow…’
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"The show has done nothing to cure me of my 48 Hours-induced McKay crush as he simply rules."
Yeah, I was pleased to hear they had kept the '48 Hours' Rodney rather than diluting him. It's very satisfying to see how popular he is now as DH isn't really a pretty boy but he's a damned good actor, so in this case talent has won out. Now I want to see DH and Michael Shanks tossed into a room together to see what would happen with their characters. I'm not entirely sure who would win that particular snark-fest but it would be so much fun watching it.
"Love Weir; such a change having someone in charge who doesn’t get into entrenched positions. I suspect she has a What Would Daniel Do? badge hidden somewhere in her room. "
*snort* According to Torri, Weir has a Daniel Jackson pillow so the badge is a distinct possibility. I'm so relieved you like her as it's a good indication I'll continue to like her, too.
"However, even though I know it would probably be very bad for the show on all kinds of levels, I really *really* want Ronon and Teyla to have lots and lots of sex where I can watch them having it, because they’re just so amazingly hot together."
One of the recent episodes I caught was one with a volcano about to erupt. There was a lovely scene with Ronon and Teyla with Ronon admitting Teyla was right. Very nicely done and showed up both characters in a good light. Very nice chemistry there.
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Borrow mine. I really think you'll enjoy it and it complements the SG-1 universe very well. I think it works very well with the two shows running at the same time so that Atlantis can explore aspects of the Ancients that they haven't been able to deal with on Stargate. I think with these two shows they're weaving a wonderful show mythology that excites enthusiasm for both shows.
Yeah, I was pleased to hear they had kept the '48 Hours' Rodney rather than diluting him. It's very satisfying to see how popular he is now as DH isn't really a pretty boy but he's a damned good actor, so in this case talent has won out. Now I want to see DH and Michael Shanks tossed into a room together to see what would happen with their characters. I'm not entirely sure who would win that particular snark-fest but it would be so much fun watching it.
I would so love to see Daniel and McKay interacting. And Daniel just being allowed to go to Atlantis because I think he'd love it so much. McKay is just as wonderful as one would expect from 48 Hours but he's treated a lot better by the other people on Atlantis than he was by the people in the SGC, which is really nice to see. It's like the difference between the way Giles and the Scoobies treated Wesley and Angel and Cordy treated him in LA.
He's still arrogant and insecure and brilliant and vulnerable, and permanently stressed. I would love to see more of him and Sam interacting because he gets asked to pull off the impossible in the same way that Sam always does, but he makes sure people realize how damned difficult it is to keep pulling off miracles ever day and what a strain it is, whereas Sam never pitched a hissy fit about it. Which is a shame. I personally think McKay and Sam need to bodyswap for an episode so that instead of just sucking up all the stress all the time, Sam would be going around saying 'Yes, energy *good*' to the rest of her team in tones of withering sarcasm when they ask her idiotic questions.
*snort* According to Torri, Weir has a Daniel Jackson pillow so the badge is a distinct possibility. I'm so relieved you like her as it's a good indication I'll continue to like her, too.
Really? That's so sweet. Well, perhaps she's crushing on him as well as channelling him (without the snark), but either way her judgement seems excellent to me.
One of the recent episodes I caught was one with a volcano about to erupt. There was a lovely scene with Ronon and Teyla with Ronon admitting Teyla was right. Very nicely done and showed up both characters in a good light. Very nice chemistry there.
I haven't seen that one yet, but, I totally agree on the chemistry. I think they just sizzle. Teyla is invariably right, but she's very patient with Ronon's tendency to kill things and Sheppard's military attitude and only really rolls her eyes about McKay having his regular nervous breakdown. She's a very admirable character and deserves some really good sex. With Ronon. Soon.
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I've approached Atantis in a completely new way for me. In the first place, this was the first show I've ever wanted to watch due to a songvid. (Lori, I have proof this happens to you, but it has never happened to me before.) I never really expected to like it all that much, because I was certain I would be annoyed by Sheppard, and I still have "issues" with the Stargate universe I used to love so much. However, I was stunned, and I was hooked before I even finished the first episode. And now I am Rodney McKay's slavefangirl.
There are two things I normally do when I'm excited about a show: first I check out the on-line communities and then I look for fanfic. I now have a sizeable list of places I won't visit twice due to the negativity and the Weir-hate and the shipper warring. In the past, this wouldn't have stopped me from going to those places and I would have muttered under my breath and gotten angry and negative myself. But I've learned my lessons well, and I only visit Happy Places where the fans love Atlantis, and I am a much happier person.
The fanfic, by the way, totally rules. I've been bemoaning the fact that several fandoms I've read in after Stargate didn't come up to the standards I was used to in that fandom, but my goodness, this is more like it! The fic is wonderful, the fans are inventive, and I will always be grateful for the songvids, one of which got me to watch a show I swore I'd never watch.
I love all the characters. It seems to me that the writers on Atlantis learned from their mistakes on Stargate and haven't made them on Atlantis. The characters are so well fleshed out, and even something like 'Letters from Pegasus', which I suppose was a clip show by definition, gave us more information about each of the characters who put a letter on tape. Now that's the way to make a clip show.
I'm not a fan of ship, and so far I haven't seen anything to annoy me where ship is concerned. Hopefully they will keep that subtle and everyone can see what they want to see and read and write what pairings they like best. I'm just happy enjoying the whole show for what it is: a source of great entertainment, wonderful characters, and a universe I fell in love with.
Long live Atlantis. :) And bring on McKay!
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The way Sam was written still bugs me, but I think part of the problem with Sam came from a place of wanting to give people a happy ending who liked the Sam/Jack thing and not being able to do that until the finale and the show getting renewed when they didn't expect it to be. I do think that the relationship is now a possibly unsalvageable mess because it's dragged on so long, but I do get that if you want to have a positive outcome for those two (if you're into that relationship) in the final episode, you have to show that there is still an interest between them before that episode or else it will just be a big WTF? It's just unfortunate that when the show was transferred to SciFi the producers weren't given a firm undertaking for five seasons rather than this year by year renewal thing. I think if they had they could have worked out a better arc for the relationship, instead of making Sam look like a pathetic drip and Jack the world's worst heterosexual male equivalent of a prick tease.
The big thing that bugged me then and still would now if they're still doing it, is the not having people who have faced death together or are related to one another giving a stuff about one another in times of stress. There were just so many times from S5 onwards when there was no scripted line or even reaction shot to the person whose father or friend was in danger or now out of danger to show that this was important. Other shows just *don't* miss those character beats because they're the point of the putting the person in peril, and SG-1 was doing it all the time from 2001 onwards. Sam on the ramp in that episode is still one of the worst moments for that but it started to be a regular sloppiness in almost every episode; from Jack and Teal'c not giving a stuff about Sam or Daniel's situation in Summit to Sam not giving a stuff about her father being in peril in Evolution to anyone giving a stuff about anyone.
That's what I find odd about Atlantis, which is written by the same writers and directed by the same directors who stopped bothering with those moments in SG-1 and yet are bothering to put them in in Atlantis. I've found watching Atlantis a thoroughly enjoyable experience, not least because they do seem to feel these characters care about each other and bother to show it. Perhaps Martin Gero being the scriptwriter has made a difference or perhaps they've just had more time/more money on Atlantis to get it right. I'm hoping it's the latter as that bodes well for S9 of SG-1.
I'm so glad you love McKay now. All that time of trying to get you to watch 48 Hours and one wonderful songvid did the job for me. *g* I don't mind reading opposing views but I know what you mean about the relentless negativity, however heartfelt it is, and it does get tiresome when people really dislike a character that you like. I mean I've been the person being relentlessly negative and probably very annoying so I understand both sides, but it's not what one necessarily wants to read when full of Shiny!New!Happy!Love for a show.
The little bits of fic I've seen all look excllent but I think we've been pretty lucky with fic really, in that Daniel, Wesley, and Vin from Mag7 all seem to be the whumpee of choice in lots and lots of quality fic, which is nice for us. :) But I would love some more gen hurt-comfort in Without A Trace fandom.
I love all the characters too, so far. It feels as if a lot of thought and a lot of love has gone into them by writers and actors alike, and there is that really high level of enthusiasm coming off the show which is very enjoyable.
So far it's been perfectly understated, hasn't it? There's something there for the Sheppard/Weir, Sheppard/Teyla or Sheppard/McKay people if they want to see it or not if they don't, but it certainly hasn't becoming intrusive or annoying.
I just really want Daniel to get a chance to visit and for him to interact with McKay now.
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Thank you!
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On the good side, I adore Rodney completely. He's absolutely wonderful, intelligent, sharp-witted, sharp-tongued and is played by a fantastic actor who I love to bits. I've now seen him in Treed Murray and have just ordered Boa vs Python (which sounds like a really dodgy B-movie) just to see the actor. I am pathetic, but I'm happy in that patheticness.
Overall, I found S1 better written than S2; I think the writers lost their focus somewhat in S2 and I'm very much hoping it'll come back in S3. The characterisation and depth of personality of many of the characters is great, but sometimes the writing is falling into the SG-1 trap of fitting the characters into the plot rather than the other way around. The characters have mostly ridden that wave - Rodney, Beckett, and Zelenka especially - but at times it's very hard to believe that the characters I thought I knew would behave as they do in some of S2. The bad writing choices seem to have happened when the writers are either going for funny or edgy, and they don't appear to be able to keep the characters in character while they do that.
Overall, though, I'm sticking with the show. It's possible lots of that is due to fanfic, where I can get the bits of McShep that I don't see on-screen i.e. the sex. I see absolutely everything else on-screen, and the "they're *so* doing it" practically screams from every scene those two are together in. Until the volcano ep (still to come for you) I didn't see any ship, thank goodness (other than the obligatory 'hero gets girl' nonsense), and the volcano ep showed how good Teyla and Ronon would be together. Bless. I'll stick to my McShep, and be happy with it.
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I'm sorry you don't like Weir, just because it sucks to have a character in a show that undermines your enjoyment of it. I feel very lucky that I love her, the way she's written, and the actress who plays her so much and so can honestly say that at the moment there is no one in Atlantis I don't like. I've had to FF through a few scenes in different shows because of characters who are irking me beyond all bearing; found Cameron incredibly irritating in S1 of House - thank goodness she didn't annoy me at all in S2 and I really liked her by the time she was angsting over Foreman - and ended up bailing on Veronica Mars after one season because of my uncontrollable loathing of Logan Echolls. So, I do sympathize.
I've seen DH in a few things now, when I wasn't even looking for him; he just turned up in Cypher, Cube, and an episode of WaT when I was minding my own business and not even indulging my McKay crush and he was wonderful in all of them. It did take me a long time to get over my annoyance that they brought in this wonderful character to Stargate SG-1, showed that he had the best chemistry with Sam that anyone has ever had (except Teal'c) and then whisked him off to Atlantis, a show I wasn't even watching at the time. I was a little miffed about that, but can now see that it was the best possible place for them to give the character the screentime and attention he deserves, although I do feel a little cheated out of the Sam-McKay interaction I was enjoying and the Daniel-McKay interaction I really wanted to see. He was originally the only reason I was intending to watch Atlantis and why I was careful to avoid spoilers, but I hadn't expected to like the rest of the show as much as I did, until I saw a music vid that completely won me over and I had to order the S1 boxset at once.
I do prefer getting to see shows a season or a few seasons at a time. I never feel I'm giving them the best possible shot when I'm watching them week by week.
I haven't seen enough of S2 to really compare it with S1 but I know a few other people have said they felt that some of the other characters were not given the development they deserved. I'm hoping to see the final twelve next week when
Can't see McShep at all. Would love to be able to, as then I could read the fic, which seems to be excellent, just can't. Like their friendship very much though, but can't see anything romantic at all as yet, despite the wonderful hissy fit of jealousy McKay pitched in Sanctuary, I'm just not feeling any buzz of attraction. Doesn't mean I won't in the future though. I couldn't really see Jack/Daniel as a romantic pairing until Jolinar's Memories; the equality wasn't there enough for me until then. What I am enjoying is all the interaction between all of the characters at the moment and particularly enjoying the friendship moments. There is the same sense of how much they all mean to one another that there was in the early seasons of Stargate and I'm enjoying that immensely.
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Your theory on the Sam-McKay interaction is right, in that Sam has great chemistry with him. But sadly I've pretty much given up on ever liking Sam again so I'd really rather she stayed well away from Rodney so that I can still enjoy him. Give me Rodney and Daniel any day - I'd love to see what would happen between those two.
I'm actually really surprised you don't see McShep. It blazes from the screen, for me, practically every time they're together. I see them as having this feisty, deep relationship that they keep so firmly under wraps that nobody would ever figure out there's anything there except the friends/professional relationship. And yeah, the McShep fic can be brilliant. I stopped watching SGA the first time I tried it, about eight eps into S1. Then I read some fic and I couldn't stay away from the fic writers' view of the characters - it really helped.
I agree with you completely on the friendship stuff, too. And I cannot understand why they can write all that in SGA but seem to be incapable of doing it in SG-1. They need some kind of overall quality check between the two shows.
BTW, when you said "I found Cameron incredibly irritating" I thought, 'yeah, me too', and then I saw you were talking about House and not Mitchell on SG-1. Mitchell was okay at the start of S9, but after a while it's like they've deliberately written him to be annoying. So while I'm really pleased we'll be getting Daniel and Teal'c back, there's also Sam and Mitchell who I'm not fond of. Then there's Vala, and I really have no idea how they're going to fit her into the show. There was an ep that was all about Vala towards the end of SG-1, and it bored the knickers off me (don't know if you've seen that one yet). I'm concerned that Vala's only interesting when she's with Daniel - something that seems to be the case for several characters - and that the writers will change her character this year so that she fits into the team more. I'll wait and see, as ever, but at the moment I'm more confident of enjoying S3 of SGA even though the way Rodney was written (and Beckett) during S2 often bothered me.
It's only telly, I guess, but I want it to be good telly.
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I'd love to see Daniel and McKay interacting. I do think McKay is the best thing that happened to Sam since Jolinar, and, as with Jolinar, gave her character a chance to show a whole new side of herself that would have been fascinating and I'm still really sorry she - and we - were robbed of the chance to see that developed more. But I think the thing I would most like to see on Atlantis at the moment is Daniel. And particularly Daniel and McKay getting to work on something together or getting stranded somewhere together. I think just puting those two together would create an instant classic of an episode.
I suspect that if one reads the McShep fic it's a lot easier to see on the show. But, so far anyway, the show has been enough to keep me absolutely riveted without the fic. I like all the characters, like the plots, love the set, and am just really enjoying it, in the same way I enjoyed early season Stargate, as a great team show.
I wonder if Stargate was the kid they adopted when they were feeling broody and Atlantis is the longed for baby they had themselves? *g* It is probably fun for BW & RCC to have a show where all the characters are their own and all the mythology, except for the Stargate itself, comes from their own imaginations instead of being hand me downs from other people.
I've only seen one S9 ep so far - although I have the first three DVDs ordered now - I think it was called Arthur's Mantle. I can't really judge Mitchell from that although I did like his Tigger-on-Crack energy. It's a bit of a problem when a show has been running this long to have that sense of wow, when Daniel, Sam and Teal'c have been doing this for so long. One can't really expect them to be excited about being invisible when it's their second or third time, but it's not that much fun for a viewer to see a lot of 'been there, done that' reactions to events that we want to find exciting. I think it's a real problem of logical character development - by which point, realistically - Daniel, Sam and Teal'c *are* going to be hoary old cynics who have seen it all before, against what a show needs to keep its sense of excitement. So, I do think they needed a character who could bounce around a little and who the others can roll their eyes about. I'll let you know what I think of Mitchell when I've watched all of S9. I think all of the DVDs are out by mid-July.
I haven't seen the all Vala ep. I've only seen Vala in Prometheus Unbound where I loved Vala and loved CB and loved the chemistry between Daniel and Vala but wanted to thwap MS hard with a stale loaf of bread for hamming it up so much I couldn't see the character for the actor. Much as I liked Vala, I can't imagine I'll love an episode all about her, because I've rarely liked a character all about one character yet, whether it's A Hundred Days, The Curse, or Desperate Measures. I think the only exceptions have been FiAD and Threshold. Characters going Through Stuff without other characters witnessing it just seems like a waste of time to me on the whole.
Most people are interesting with Teal'c too and I'd like to see Sam and Vala interacting, as the lack of female friendship on Stargate has really bugged me for years. There was never enough of Sam and Janet interacting for me. If Joss Whedon was writing Stargate, of course, we could hope for a fling between Sam and Vala, but as I think the Bridge writers would probably stand on a chair and scream if even asked to spell the word 'lesbian' I doubt we'll be getting that just yet. *g*
It's only telly, I guess, but I want it to be good telly.
A big 'Amen' to that. :)
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With Mitchell it's not his energy that I have an issue with, it's that after the early episodes are over with and he's been introduced, he directs that energy into being a moron all too often. For someone who's apparently read about all previous SG-1 missions, he acts like a prat too often for me, and some little personality things have irritated me too. That's such a shame, because I liked him when he first arrived. He changed over S9 and I'm hoping he will change back in S10 otherwise I just won't be interested in him. I think part of it is that I don't rate the actor - not that I think he's hopeless, just that he's not on the level of MS or CJ or CB. If Arthur's Mantle is the one I think it is, I did like the Daniel/Sam stuff in that and liked the story in general, but I found Mitchell's behaviour to be annoying. He's too impulsive for the role he's in, and he doesn't seem to truly understand the concept of teamwork. He likes to be the hero and doesn't seem to think any of his behaviour through either before or after the event. It's not the kind of personality trait that I find appealing in an adult, and especially not in someone who's meant to be leading a team that has so much experience. Also, the main episode that is meant to introduce us to Mitchell as a person has him off somewhere without the rest of the team - a complete waste of time, IMO. Even by the end of the season - a whole year for the team - I feel no sense of connection between Daniel and Mitchell or Teal'c and Mitchell. I only saw a few bits of episodes of Farscape and really didn't like it, so this is my first real experience of BB. I suspect my view of Mitchell is different from that of a big Farscape / BB fan, but I can only go on what I've seen.
If you liked Prometheus Unbound and the Daniel / Vala chemistry there, then I think you'll love the first four episodes of S9. The chemistry is there in spades, but Daniel is so very much Daniel and not MS. MS is absolutely brilliant in those episodes - he's given big challenges and he exceeds expectations every time. CJ is given fewer challenges than MS but he still has a lot more to do than he often had in previous seasons, so there's plenty of good Teal'c stuff to look forward to. And some of the Teal'c / Daniel stuff makes me all melty. *sigh*
And back to McShep. It wasn't the McShep in the fic that made me see it in the show - it was already in the show for me even when the show itself didn't impress me greatly. I watch shows for characters first and foremost, so with Weir annoying me, Teyla making very little impression at all, having Shep as some kind of surfer dude pale imitation of Jack, and basically having to rely on Rodney plus the few bits of Beckett and Zelenka for my interest? The show couldn't hold me. Reading fic gave Shep the depth I still can't see much of in him in the show even now (I suspect quite a bit of that's down to the actor, though), which meant I could fill in the emotional blanks myself while watching. That let me enjoy him a lot more, and also Teyla a lot more, so gave me enough to keep me going. What I really like is the bigger cast of characters who are important to SGA, as well as the whole Atlantis set itself. I dearly wish they'd done a lot more exploring of the city, since that was the whole raison d'etre of the expedition in the first place. Perhaps we'll get more of that in S3, who knows. At some point I'm going to buy the S1 SGA DVDs when I can find a R2 set that I know for sure have episode commentaries on them.
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Haven't seen you around for a while. Hope all is well with you and yours :)
First off... YAY! Another SGA and McKay fangirl! Whee! I don't have many who are on my flist, so I'm very, very pleased. *g*
Have you seen the 'Stressed' music vid? It's a McKay vid, and it's totally about him and stress. lol. Very impressive. Oh, but it has scenes until late S2 I think, so maybe you wanna avoid it if you don't want to get too spoiled. Here's the link- http://www.relative-obscurity.org/belles/cb.html
When I first heard about a Stargate spin-off, I wasn't too impressed. It's not always easy to duplicate the success of the original show. Boy, was I wrong. I only saw S1 late last year, and when I saw Atlantis rising from beneath the waves, I knew I was hooked. I loved John a bit when he stumbled down a slope after Teyla and pretended to be cool about it. I loved John more when he told Rodney in the Brotherhood that he could've joined MENSA. And my final complete fall was when he went all stealthily rampaging and killed 60-odd Genii in defense of Atlantis (and Rodney + Elizabeth). Oh, *purr*
Of course, I'm a total McKay slavegirl. Oh Rodney. My love knows no bounds. You had me at 'Hide & Seek' and I love you more and more as I see each ep. *bg* And now I'm a DH fangirl too. O.o There are some very good eps in S2, I hope you share your thoughts with us when you're done seeing them all.
I love all the characters in SGA. It makes me very happy :D I love Dr Weir, sure she could've been written better in S2, but I totally don't see why people hate her so. *shrug* At least there's fanfic, and in this fandom we are blessed with so many exceptional writers. I literally don't have time to keep up with all the fic.
Teyla is amazing, and yes, she totally have to do it with Ronon. :D Everyone was prepared to hate Ronon since he's practically replacing Ford, but boy! Didn't we all fall all over him, lol. He's amazing too. There are some interactions between him and Teyla in S2 which are very, very good. They do have a lot in common, being the 'aliens', and always seem to be sharing amused looks when John and Rodney start bickering. (and yes, I'm a McShep fangirl, though it took me a while to see it, hee)
Radek! You're right, we have to clone him. He's adorable. And Carson, yay. I'm sorry that Peter had to die, that was a blow. I even love Kavanaugh and Bates. There should be more of them too, damnit. When a show makes me love each and every one of the characters, well. You can be assured I'll be fangirling til the end. Just like Angel and Firefly and NCIS and X-Files and SG1 and The Sentinel. *happy sigh*
Oh, and Lorne! He even came over from SG1, isn't that great? What a great continuity right there. And some more new supporting characters who are distinctive and vital and so unique. Did I tell you I love this show? *g*
Ooops, didn't mean to ramble so much. But I really am happy :D
Be seeing ya, and happy viewing! :)
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There is literally no one I don't love on this show. That is one of the reasons it's such a joy for me. McKay would be enough to make me watch anything (and DH is such a fantastic actor that I'm happy to watch him and giant snakes in questionable sci-fi movies...), but what a wonderful bonus to so enjoy the whole package of characters and story-telling.
And, yes, McShep rules. And so does the fanfic in this fandom. :)
Happy happy fangirl here.
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Oh, Rodney. everybody's out to get me and I feel all right... That vid sure makes his hands seem... hypnotizing... *bg*
Ah, Boa vs Python. The tight t-shirt makes it all worthwhile... :D
Have fun at your get together, you guys! :D
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(And I had your comments in all neatly italicized and everything but LJ said the post was too long until I cut them, so apologies for that.)
Everything is great, thank you. I'm very excited about
Have you seen the 'Stressed' music vid?
That is the vid that hooked
Oh yes, me too on Atlantis rising from beneath the waves! Isn't that a stunning, stunning shot? I really did have tears in my eyes when that happened, and I love the love that they all have for the city, and how it's become another character in the show, like Zen in Blake's 7. I just really really want Daniel to see it, as I think it would be love at first sight for him too.
I was expecting Sheppard to be a character I just had to put up with and I've found myself liking him more and more with each episode; he's smart, he's witty, he's fallible, and he is very human and sweet, and all the moments you cite are lovely.
I'm gobbling the show up so greedily, I'm not sure my thoughts will be very coherent, but I'll certainly try to post something. I'm right with you on being a McKay and DH fangirl too.
It's wonderful to see so much fic. I'm not in the place yet where I want to read fic about the show; I'm too busy just watching it, but I'm thrilled to know how much there is out there. I may feel differently about Weir when I've seen all of S2, but even if she screws up, I think she's earned it for all the times when she made the right call. At the moment she's almost up there with McKay in my character love, and there isn't anyone I don't like. I have the warm fuzzies about the whole bunch of them right now.
I do think that Sheppard and McKay's bickering is completely adorable and deserves a lot of eye rolling from the grown ups on the team. It would be nice if Teyla and Ronon could have sex quite soon. :) Good for you on the McShep. Perhaps one day I'll see it too, but it may be something one has to read the fic to really get.
When a show makes me love each and every one of the characters, well. You can be assured I'll be fangirling til the end. Just like Angel and Firefly and NCIS and X-Files and SG1 and The Sentinel. *happy sigh*
It's that really good sense of a whole group of characters who care about each other and so make us care about them that makes a show a must see, isn't it? I was very choked up when Peter Grodin died, and the other deaths have all felt significant too. I particularly liked Weir having to send messages back to the families and this real sense of how painful this was to recipients as well as how hard for her.
Oh, and Lorne! He even came over from SG1, isn't that great? What a great continuity right there. And some more new supporting characters who are distinctive and vital and so unique. Did I tell you I love this show? *g*
I love the continuity between the two shows, like having the girl from Frozen at the beginning of Rising, and the references to SG-1 events. I'd love more crossovers between the two shows.
Ooops, didn't mean to ramble so much. But I really am happy :D
Be seeing ya, and happy viewing! :)
You're not rambling at all! It's lovely to hear your thoughts. I'm right there with you on the Atlantis love! I'm really looking forward to seeing the rest of S2 and waiting impatiently for S3 to air. :)
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There's really no better way to spend the time, drooling over yummy guys and with great company too. Hope you guys have fun :D
Haven't seen 'If I Wrote You.' Thanks for linking it. I'm always discovering new things here. The fandom is so big that even things from 2004 are new to me *g*
You already loved Rodney from SG1? Wow. I only got to see him after I watched SGA. Had to dload the eps. My SG1 viewing is up to S5 only, I think. For some reason the tv stations here didn't want to pick up SG1. And the dvds are hard to find. Oh well.
But anyway, Rodney at the SGC. Annoying and cute. I love his whole reaction to Anubis. "Anubis, this is your agent..." He has no respect whatsoever. lol.
I had a weird moment where a crazy thought popped up in my head: Rodney is Jack and Sam's love-child. Cause he's got her eyes and his mouth (literally & figuratively, lol)
Daniel and Sam should totally be at Atlantis already. Daniel most of all. I think they might have the chance in S3, I mean... crossovers! Wheee! Why the heck not? ;)
Ah, Elizabeth. Yes she made some mistakes, they all did. They're not infallible. And I love seeing her flail around Ronon. She just doesn't know how to act around him. Gosh, aside from Ronon/Teyla, I want to see Ronon/Elizabeth. Cause they're so opposites *g*
Anyway, some good S2 eps coming up. Still totally with the SGA love :)
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As someone whose primary fandoms are Angel and SGA, I couldn't be happier that you've discovered the joy that is Atlantis (and McKay's arms, and John's possibly sentient hairstyle, but anyway...)
Hope you don't mind...I friended you, in the spirit of the friendship meme :-) since I am out pimping it, I felt I should hold to my principles *g*
:-) xx